tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post2852771531936779590..comments2024-03-04T10:43:03.201+00:00Comments on The Reason Stick: Is The 27 Club Statistically Significant?Crispian Jagohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16834942943012382473noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-38342823152781820072011-09-19T17:44:40.341+01:002011-09-19T17:44:40.341+01:00One might notice though that a significant portion...One might notice though that a significant portion dies from age 50 and younger. That would actually be useful data to suggest that the rock-star life style is not conducive to good health and long life. The graph probably matches the same numbers for smokers, alcoholics, and drug users. But then it might be interesting if we could get some rock stars who actually lived healthy lifestyles and see what their longevity looks like. Maybe then it can be shown that rock is actually good for you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-38529884328338101872011-08-29T04:30:09.614+01:002011-08-29T04:30:09.614+01:00A new member of the 27 Club:
http://www.guardian.c...A new member of the 27 Club:<br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/28/richard-turner-obituaryKimpatsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156184889287692016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-44907654305274788762011-08-03T18:25:49.985+01:002011-08-03T18:25:49.985+01:00KNOCK KNOCK
new rulership for SCOFFING BOURGEOIS ...KNOCK KNOCK<br /><br />new rulership for SCOFFING BOURGEOIS ATHEIST PIGLETS<br /><br /><br />ottawaskeptics.org/forum?func=view&id=4316&catid=3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-37393544748561910272011-07-29T22:35:40.688+01:002011-07-29T22:35:40.688+01:00Great reading! Love it and will share it. BTW, wha...Great reading! Love it and will share it. BTW, what constitutes a "premature" death?<br /><br />Before THEY wanted to go?<br />Before WE wanted them to go?<br />Or simply "before old age"?<br /><br />Robert in ArizonaRoberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05954340485460303363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-39100584198013725942011-07-28T22:37:42.469+01:002011-07-28T22:37:42.469+01:00What about Brad Nowell, the lead singer of Sublime...What about Brad Nowell, the lead singer of Sublime, who died from a heroin overdoes in 1996 at the age of 28. If he would have died a few months earlier would he now be a member of the 27 club?Bra Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01183879678389880286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-44151688895894745522011-07-28T13:08:25.772+01:002011-07-28T13:08:25.772+01:00There is a more straightforward explanation, and I...There is a more straightforward explanation, and I am surprised that it has not been given here. <br /><br />For most of the member of this 27 club, death can be at least partially explained by some sort of self destruction. <br /><br />Once a rockstar reach the age of 27, he knows he is a potential member of the club. If he is already going wrong, this could trigger its death.htnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-29412238390440087612011-07-27T19:11:57.539+01:002011-07-27T19:11:57.539+01:00Suppose that we would expect rock star deaths betw...Suppose that we would expect rock star deaths between the ages of 21 and 40 to be roughly evenly distributed. You have about 50 deaths between those ages in your table. (I used that range because beyond there the deaths look to thin out by year). I calculate the probability of 6 of those 50 occurring at a specific age to be about 0.026, which is roughly 1 in 40. So it happening is no great statistical oddity.ivannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-41937839554696234012011-07-26T15:11:32.522+01:002011-07-26T15:11:32.522+01:00"Nothing in his life
Became him like the leav..."Nothing in his life<br />Became him like the leaving it."<br /><br />Shakespeare.<br /><br />Yes, that's the line I had buzzing in the back of my head when I wrote my comment above.<br /><br />Bit late now, of course.Paul Clarkehttp://paulclarke.com/photographynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-56943362588882791022011-07-26T04:55:59.014+01:002011-07-26T04:55:59.014+01:00You also seem to have come up with a Brand New Tes...You also seem to have come up with a Brand New Test: is something "statically important"?rollonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-10694558640335823582011-07-25T22:28:23.016+01:002011-07-25T22:28:23.016+01:00I was actually thinking of doing the same exercise...I was actually thinking of doing the same exercise. Thanxs for the trouble! :)ABShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14317154465875725749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-57048633474143559912011-07-24T20:55:25.608+01:002011-07-24T20:55:25.608+01:00Another distorting factor that leaps to mind is th...Another distorting factor that leaps to mind is the amplifying effect of the early death <i>per se</i>.<br /><br />Take someone, who not that notable now (let's pick on poor old Jon Bon Jovi) would perhaps, if they had expired in 1989 at the magic age, have achieved the sort of notability required to feature in this list. If he died at 47 or 57 he probably wouldn't have been in consideration even for the type of age-spread sample used above.<br /><br />A complex, and somewhat circular problem, I know, but definitely an interesting one.Paul Clarkehttp://paulclarke.com/photographynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-20461927620982012562011-07-24T16:04:59.475+01:002011-07-24T16:04:59.475+01:00Of course it is nothing supernatural. 94 out of 10...Of course it is nothing supernatural. 94 out of 100 dead rock stars did NOT die at the age of 27. <br /><br />And think of all thousands of rockstars, that are still alive and already older than 27. <br /><br />Add to that the fact, that rock music isn't THAT old, so of course there are not THAT many rock stars that already died from natural causes at an average age. <br /><br />And then of course there is the question: "What makes someone a 'rock'star and why is e.g. Amy Winehouse on this list?". Rock isn't even a genre that is listed on Amy Winehouse's wikipedia article. If you add other prominent figures of jazz- or soul-music to the list, it might look completely different.Tom Schafferhttp://zurpolitik.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-6303776175546279382011-07-24T16:03:09.957+01:002011-07-24T16:03:09.957+01:00Funny that, I was completely unaware that Louis &q...Funny that, I was completely unaware that Louis "Lois" Armstrong had mad any rock albums.Jeff Pickthallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06343140031285101096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2940570413170689012.post-12245953874117595492011-07-24T15:20:42.059+01:002011-07-24T15:20:42.059+01:00Very nice! I wanted to do this, but I figured the ...Very nice! I wanted to do this, but I figured the list should be longer, and I didn't want my own preferences to lead the way. (Maybe you could have added Robert Johnson?)<br /><br />I always thought that 27 was statistically significant because it is most likely a product of fame more than anything. Once a young budding musician hits the big time, how long until he/she destroys him/herself? 27 seems to be the magic number. There are too many variables though. I always want to add people like John Belushi and Jean-Michel Basquiat as well. But my skeptic brain thinks that there's no statistical significance.slakr73https://www.blogger.com/profile/04627928140575961839noreply@blogger.com